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scottb
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #1
Anyone know of a mod to make the panel of the early ASW 19 lift up as per the 20C/B ? Cheers
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luckydog
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #2
Rex Mays has the moulds and parts to convert early asw20's/asw19's to lift up style. I have seen a couple of these conversions and they look very nice. you can find him at Williams Soaring California. www.williamssoaring.com

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Al
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luckydog
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #3
I wonder why you would want to change it.

The fixed panel gives easy access to the instruments. Adding the panel weight to the canopy will probably make it much more likely to blow closed and get damaged. Also with the fixed panel all wire and tube runs stay in place. With the lift up panel they all have to flex and risk being damaged or kinked.

For all these reasons I prefer the fixed panel on my 19 to the lift up panel on my 28.
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Grogs
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #4
For a customer who asked if it could be done. Tis all. Paul
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mintern
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #5
More worried about getting legs out from underneath the panel while bailing out. Customers concern. Paul
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StevieG
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #6
I completely agree. In my '27, I have already lost my microphone cable, gear warning wire, and the wires from one of the two batteries to stresses in this area. The microphone cable was cut when the glider was less than 6 months old. It is only a year old now.

I would like to hear from any other '27 & '28 owners who are having these problems.
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Vhear
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #7
Talk to the folks at Williams Soaring in California. They have a Pegase 101D that they fitted with an ASW-19 panel. IIRC its hinged so it can be lifted but is not part of the canopy assembly.
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ngc1981
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #8
No problems here, nor with the modified panel of our 20. I strongly doubt that you can leave the cockpit of a 15, 17, 19 or 20 with fixed panel quick enough to survive a bail-out. I always had problems to get out on the ground.

Bye
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #9
So that when you eject the canopy the full panel hits you in the head and knocks you unconscious before you can even think about moving your legs?

Wasn't there a DG accident not long ago where this happened?

Like Andy, I prefer my panel bolted to the glider.

Mike

ASW 20 WA
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freeport3304
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #10
We looked into this. Cost new panel and a new strut to take the extra weight. Typical cost in the UK over 1000 UK pounds
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StevieG
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Posted 2 Years, 8 Months ago #11
Only the canopy leaves the glider. The panel just rotates up and clears the way. Unless someone has come up with a panel that ejects as well and saves all the expensive flight computors etc under a separate chute The DG accident was because there was no roger hook which is now a retro fit on all DG single canopy gliders and standard on all new gliders. Paul
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